This is True Crime Kids. And we're back.

Jack Luna, joining me again, TCC.

Happy to have you back, Jack.

Happy to be back, Kent.

Op has, I believe, taken off for Christmas.

Hmm.

I think we're doing some live stuff on the Patreon and things like that, but Jack will be

joining me for this episode, and then the next episode we'll have Joe back.

So it's going to be a good couple of episodes here.

I'm not saying, hold on, the episodes with op are great that's not what i was i feel like i've ran my mouth into a corner and things are

the episodes the episodes with opera so today we're covering a case that was hard to research. Jack, I gave you the guy's name maybe a week ago at this

point. You said you had trouble finding anything out about him? Yeah, I had the wrong guy for a while.

I think I was just researching Harvey Keitel and it wasn't making making sense. That was huge into movies.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Characters are his, the wolf and all that.

But, no, I eventually found his Wikipedia and then that was where the trail went cold.

And I'm impressed that you're able to find anything here that can amount to an episode.

I'm excited to follow along with you.

Yeah, there's no books on this case, and you probably haven't even heard of it, but this entire episode was put together with old newspapers.

So I want to shout out to newspapers.com, who I think is going to be maybe actually sponsoring, not just TCK, but all the 1159 media podcasts because of how highly we've spoken of them.

And we've actually also gotten to know a few of the employees of newspapers.com. Good people. Great website.

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