Harvard’s Happiness Expert: The Secret to Calm in the Chaos w/ Tal Ben-Shahar - E169
Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick
Dr. Jean Claude Doornick
5.0 • 545 Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | What if the reason so many people feel unhappy today is because they're trying too hard to be happy. |
| 0:06.6 | In a culture obsessed with optimization, personal growth, and constant positivity, |
| 0:12.6 | millions of people are doing everything they've been told that should work. |
| 0:16.8 | They're reading the books, following the routines, and tracking their progress, |
| 0:20.4 | trying to stay grateful and optimistic, all of that. |
| 0:23.8 | And yet, anxiety, burnout, loneliness continue to rise. |
| 0:28.2 | My guest today believes that the problem may actually be the direct pursuit for happiness itself. |
| 0:34.5 | Tal Ben Shahar is one of the world's leading voices in positive psychology and the author |
| 0:40.6 | of Happier No Matter What. His course on happiness at Harvard became one of the most popular classes, |
| 0:46.7 | and I think he was known as one of the most popular teachers in the university's whole history, |
| 0:51.4 | and his work has helped millions of people rethink what it really means |
| 0:55.6 | to flourish and be happy. One of the most fascinating ideas in his book is what he calls the |
| 1:00.6 | paradox of happiness. And what it says is the more directly we choose happiness and chase happiness, |
| 1:06.5 | the more elusive it tends to become. Tao compares it to staring at the sun. |
| 1:12.0 | If you look directly at the sun, it blinds you. |
| 1:15.0 | But when the sunlight meets the rain at the right angle, |
| 1:18.0 | something beautiful appears. |
| 1:19.5 | A rainbow. |
| 1:20.2 | You don't chase the rainbow. |
| 1:21.7 | You create the conditions for the rainbow. |
| 1:24.5 | So today, we're going to explore what those conditions are. We'll talk about |
| 1:29.3 | psychological flexibility, toxic positivity, and anti-fragility, and why the ability to grow stronger |
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