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On the Media

Harvard and the Battle Over Higher Ed

On the Media

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🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The fight for the soul of America’s most prestigious university.

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0:00.0

On this week's on the media, the leadership crisis at Harvard and the backlash to decades of diversity efforts didn't begin or end with the resignation of its first black president last year.

0:11.8

Diversity wasn't much of an important political term in the 1970s. Integration was a much bigger term. Nobody was buying stock in diversity.

0:22.6

I refer, in my opinion, to the Harvard admissions program.

0:26.6

As one example of how race properly, in my opinion, may be taken into account.

0:32.6

Tonight, President Trump's crackdown on pro-Palestinian protests ramping up, immigration agents taking

0:38.3

a second student involved in the Columbia University demonstrations into custody.

0:42.3

We will continue to look for people that we would never have allowed into this country on student

0:46.4

visas, had we known they were going to do what they've done.

0:49.0

But now that they've done it, we're going to get rid of them.

0:51.4

We have to honestly and aggressively attack the universities in this country.

0:56.0

It's all coming up after this.

1:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.

1:03.5

I'm Michael Lohinger.

1:04.7

And I'm Brooke Gladstone.

1:06.3

After months of witnessing the demolition of federal agencies that safeguard our health and our security,

1:12.7

of seeing violent lawbreakers and corrupt pals and tycoons set free, of watching the firing

1:19.5

of civil servants who process our benefits and researchers that gather data so that we can

1:25.3

better understand the true state of the nation,

1:28.3

after months of action against public institutions and even private ones who may see that nation differently.

1:36.2

After months of the chainsaw, this week there finally was a protracted call from the loyal opposition to make good trouble.

1:46.7

Don't become like him.

1:48.9

Be an American that says, I look to the future and I'm exciting.

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