Hey everybody, what's up, it's Chase.

I am your host, your guide, and your friend along this journey of becoming more awesome

and our pursuit of learning from the world's top creators and entrepreneurs.

You know about the show.

You're listening to the Chase Jarvis Live show here on Creative Live.

I am honored to be in your your ears and today we're going back

on book tour so many of you i shared a previous episode of a book tour event in seattle with my good

friend mr brandon stanton and i've shared another one with with seth godin this time i'm in san francisco

for a a completely different conversation with Jason

Calcanus. Now, Jason is an investor, long, long time host of a very successful podcast called

This Week in Startup. And he really does. Jason comes out swinging. We talk about growing and

dealing with large missed opportunities about how starting small is the big secret to success.

Everyone in our culture is obsessed with scale.

And we look at all these successful people and successful startups and companies.

And everyone we're all constantly comparing and measuring to has had astronomical success.

And you know what?

Starting off thinking like that is the wrong way.

I go into great detail about how starting small is the new awesome.

Also, I put forward, I think, a new lens on how to think about not just success and failure,

but when to continue and when to stop.

There's a really good discussion that follows a lot of questions from the audience,

and I know you're going to love this episode.

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