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Harmeet Dhillon: Draining the DOJ swamp, One Civil Rights Lawyer at a Time

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New York Post

News, Government, Politics, News Commentary

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Harmeet Dhillon, the Justice Department’s top civil rights lawyer,  joins Miranda Devine for a candid conversation about rooting out liberal entrenchment in the civil rights division at the DOJ. She tells Miranda that 70% of attorneys in her division quit after she demanded they follow the law instead of leftist activism. She reveals how she’s dismantling decades of DEI discrimination, aggressively prosecuting attacks on synagogues and churches, and ending the weaponization against conservatives, parents, Catholics, and Trump supporters. Sponsors: Pharma Reform Alliance: Learn more at https://www.pharmareformalliance.com/ Masa Chips: Ready to give MASA or Vandy a try? Get 25% off your first order by going to http://masachips.com/PODFORCEONE and using code PODFORCEONE. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Pod Force One podcast. I'm Miranda Devine. Today we're joined by Harmeet Dillon.

0:08.0

She runs the Justice Department's very powerful civil rights division.

0:12.8

Hamit, Dylan, thank you so much for joining Pod Force One. I can't wait for this conversation.

0:19.0

Now, you are leading the civil rights division of the Department of

0:22.9

Justice, which is a notorious hotbed of leftist activism, social engineering. And it must

0:31.1

have been a huge shock to them to have you arrive. You're a conservative, you've represented as a

0:37.0

lawyer in private practice, so many high-profile

0:40.0

conservatives who've been targeted by the left. What was your welcome like? Well, you got a clue of

0:47.2

what the welcome was going to be like from the Judiciary Committee hearing where basically all

0:53.3

the Democrat senators came after me and every Democrat

0:56.4

civil rights, every liberal civil rights group in America came after me. And so, you know,

1:00.8

the knives were already out. And I think they, no one was surprised by what my direction was

1:08.1

going to be. But I think they might have been surprised at the speed and determination with which we

1:13.1

immediately made changes in the Civil Rights Division.

1:15.5

So I was confirmed by the Senate in early April.

1:18.6

The president not had nominated me back in December.

1:22.0

And, you know, so people had a lot of time to get prepared.

1:25.8

And I was warned that there'll be some Easter eggs hidden and like, you know, so people had a lot of time to get prepared. And I was warned that there'll be some

1:28.4

Easter eggs hidden and like bad Easter eggs hidden in the bowels of the DOJ, things that the

1:35.5

DOJ prior administration might have done immediately before the change over a power. And it was

1:41.8

kind of a vacuum between the president swearing in and the time that inferior officials in the DOJ get confirmed. So a lot of mischief could be done by interim leaders. And so, um, so what I did was I, you know, you come into the government. It's like any other big, uh, business, if you will, you got to do your HR training and in the case of the government,

2:01.3

you got to figure out how to handle sensitive documents, a lot of training in the week one.

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