little behind the scenes. So we're getting ready to go on. And, you know, if you were at the live show, you know that the show started with a marching band coming in that Kevin and I were leading. Kevin and I were marching down different staircases trailed by a band of marching musicians. And so Kevin was sort of, you know, loaded into his position. And I went down to the next door with my three musicians. And I go to open the door. And then, of course, it's locked. And they're already playing the cold open for the show. We have a few seconds left.

And I'm, like, frantically trying to wave someone from the SF Jazz Center. And he runs up with his myself. Yeah. It's always interesting to me when they lock the audience, you know, into the theater.

That was, I wasn't sure exactly what was happening there.

Release the bees!

That's what, look, when you do a two-hour podcast taping, some people are going to try to leave, and you're going to want to have a plan for that. It's true. And we had a plan. And the plan was you can't leave. The best audience is a captive audience.

Absolutely.

I'm Kevin Russe, Tech columnist at the New York Times.

I'm Casey Newt from Platformer.

And this is Hard Fork.

This week.

It's Hard Fork live.

You'll hear our first ever podcast taping in front of a live audience in San Francisco.

We've got a special appearance from San Francisco Mayor Daniel Lurie and the conversation that had everyone talking this week.

It's our extended interview with OpenAI CEO Sam Alton and C.O. Brad Lightcap.

Got a little spicy.

Well, Casey, Hard Fork Live is in the books.

How are you feeling?

Are you recovered?

I am floating.

I think everyone should have the experience of starting a podcast and then having 700 people come to watch it. It really is a,

it really makes you feel good. Yeah, we had such a great time. Thank you to everyone who came out.

We had a packed house and I got to say it was so much fun. It was so much fun. And, you know,

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