'Hard Fork': An Interview With Sam Altman

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🗓️ 24 November 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

It was a head-spinning week in the tech world with the abrupt firing and rehiring of OpenAI’s chief executive, Sam Altman. The hosts of “Hard Fork,” Kevin Roose and Casey Newton, interviewed Altman only two days before he was fired. Over the course of their conversation, Altman laid out his worldview and his vision for the future of A.I. Today, we’re bringing you that interview to shed light on how Altman has quickly come to be seen as a figure of controversy inside the company he co-founded. “Hard Fork” is a podcast about the future of technology that's already here. You can search for it wherever you get your podcasts. Visit nytimes.com/hardfork for more.

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Michael. I hope you're having a wonderful Thanksgiving holiday. If you didn't catch us yesterday,
0:07.0	let me just say, in addition to you and everyone who listens to the daily,
0:11.0	one of the things we are so grateful for here at the
0:14.4	show is our amazing colleagues. Reporters and editors throughout the
0:19.1	Newsroom and also throughout the Times Audio Department.
0:23.5	So yesterday and today, we're doing something a little bit different.
0:27.4	We're turning the stage over to those colleagues in the audio department
0:31.3	to showcase their terrific work.
0:34.0	Today it's our friends at Hard Fork.
0:37.0	If you're not familiar, Hard Fork is a weekly tech conversation hosted by Kevin Rousos and Casey Newton.
0:43.0	It's excellent.
0:45.0	Case in Point, for today's show, we're going to play you an interview that Kevin and Casey did with Sam
0:50.0	Alman, the CEO at Open AI, just two days before Alman was abruptly ousted and later reinstated
0:58.0	by his board.
0:59.0	If you're a daily listener, earlier this week we covered the entire saga in our episode inside the coup at open AI.
1:06.0	Anyway here's Kevin and here's Casey who are going to say a little bit more about their
1:11.1	interview with Altman and about their show hard fork.
1:15.2	Take a listen.
1:16.2	Hello daily listeners hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
1:19.3	I'm Kevin Rousa tech columnist for the New York Times.
1:21.8	I'm Casey Newton from Platformer.
1:23.3	And as you just heard, we are the hosts of Hard Fork.
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