Hard borders, harder politics: Europe's migration crisis
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The Times
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🗓️ 27 August 2025
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Yesterday Nigel Farage unveiled Reform UK’s plans to tackle the issue of small boats and illegal migration. It's a problem that's driven European politics for almost a decade, we look to the continent for lessons they've learned on how it could be solved.
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| 0:00.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. I'm Manvine Rana. |
| 0:11.3 | The name may be a bit misleading, but a mere 62 miles out of London, the London-Oxford airport |
| 0:18.8 | became the backdrop yesterday for Reform's biggest announcement yet |
| 0:22.7 | on what it would do about the issue of small boats. |
| 0:27.1 | This is, he was become a scourge of modern Britain. |
| 0:34.8 | In an aircraft hangar, standing in front of a giant Union Jack, Nigel Farage railed |
| 0:41.3 | against the number of asylum seekers arriving on our shores. |
| 0:45.3 | It is an invasion as these young men illegally break into our country. |
| 0:53.3 | He promised to forcibly deport men, women and children |
| 0:57.6 | as a departures board displayed the locations they'd be sent back to, |
| 1:02.3 | locations where their lives could well be in danger. |
| 1:05.8 | Afghanistan, Eritrea, Iran, Syria, Sudan, |
| 1:10.3 | currently one of the deadliest war zones in the world. |
| 1:13.3 | And all of this would be possible because reform promised to rip up the UK's membership of the European Convention on Human Rights, the ECHR. |
| 1:22.9 | We have to leave the ECHR. No ifs, no buts. It may have been a good idea 80 years ago. Frankly, |
| 1:33.0 | it isn't today. |
| 1:41.4 | Nigel Farage went further than any other party leader, |
| 1:45.7 | but he's reshaped British politics to follow where he leads. |
| 1:50.0 | And it's not just the UK. |
| 1:52.4 | Across Europe, migration is becoming the issue that makes or breaks governments. |
| 1:58.2 | So what can we learn from the policies that are being pursued across the continent? |
| 2:02.6 | The story today, hard borders, harder politics, Europe's migration crisis. |
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