Hey friends and welcome to the happy hour with Jamie Ivy podcast. I'm your host Jamie and I'm so glad you're here.

Each week on this show, I invite a friend to join me and we chat about the big things in life, the little things in life and everything in between.

Hey friends, happy Friday. It is episode number 331.

Coming at you on October 16th, it's Friday. I'm so excited. Today is a great show for you.

I sit down with a new friend of mine, Mandisa. You might know Mandisa from her time on American Idol.

In fact, I didn't remember what had happened on the show and she tells us how that went down and I was so impressed with her bravery and her confidence and her sharing the gospel in the midst of a really hard time.

So much so that I came home from my interview in Nashville and showed my kids the episode in how she had a conversation with Simon that was so impactful.

I believe for the world to see Mandisa and I had such a lovely conversation today and I left our conversation and it was our first time to ever meet.

I left our conversation saying, I really like this woman. We talked about body image and weight and depression and man, we talked about 2020 and how do we vote as a Christian.

We talked about uniting and Christ and celebrating diversity and colorblindness and the joy that she sees and the need that we also have in black and brown worship leaders rising up.

And of course, she's a football fan. So we talk about her Titans. You guys, it's a lovely show.

Mandisa is gracious and kind and brilliant and beautiful inside and out and you're going to love our conversation today.

Friends, it's been two weeks since the release of my newest book, UBU, why satisfaction and success are closer than you think.

And it has been so lovely to hear all the ways that this book is ministering to you.

So much so that I want to read apart from the book for you today. Here we go.

This is a section from chapter five.

In V is a terrible lie. It was first to us that we deserve more and should get more.

It leads us to wish that our life looked more like her life and it threatens to change the way we live to change how we live our

callings. Change how we use our voice. Change how we exercise our gifts and talents.

Comparison makes me want to hustle to be better than her. It makes me think if I just hustle more, I could be what's making me feel so inferior to her.

If I would do the five things she says she does, I'd be a better mom. I get the respect that see her getting that I think I deserve.

I'd be more like the real person. Everyone thinks I am. If I would just do that, whatever that is.

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