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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the Busy Mom podcast. I am, I joined today

by my friend, Dorenda Wilson, Hey Dorena. Hey Heidi, hey, we're doing this thing. It's

Monday. We are. It's Monday. It's Monday, December 12th. We're getting a little bit closer

to Christmas. Our hopes are up. Our hopes are high. And that's because we still haven't

done the annual Christmas cookie bake. And I still haven't done my Christmas letter.

Oh my gosh. I know, right 28 years. I just, I don't know, I can't decide. Some traditions

are worth doing. It's a real struggle for you. It is a struggle. I'm struggling. And

I don't know if it's self-loathing. I don't know. Maybe it's exhaustion. It could be that

could be. Yeah, I should just forego writing a Christmas letter this year and take a bath.

Hey, you could put your Christmas letter in podcast form. Hey, hey, that's not bad idea.

That's all I don't know if anybody would really enjoy it. But you're right. That's not a bad

idea. All right. So we're, we're, we've been talking a little bit about, you know, just

the things that we love about Christmas and the things that we hate about Christmas. And

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