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The Way Out Is In

Happy Farmers Change the World (Episode #69)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Buddhism, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

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🗓️ 16 May 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to episode 69 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. With Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu away, leadership coach/journalist Jo Confino holds the fort with a special episode about the art of land regeneration, happy farming, and reconnecting deeply to nature. This time, Jo is joined by special guests and happy farmers Mick McEvoy and Sister Trang Lam Hy (Sister Forest of Joy), two of the people behind the Happy Farms agroecology project in Plum Village.The conversation touches upon many topics, from Zen philosophies, the Diamond Sutra, and deep ecology, to seasonal planting and practicing mindfulness while working the land; producing food AND caring for the Earth; collective awakening and beginning anew; empathy for our food; reclaiming the nobility of the farmer; the importance of growing (beautiful) vegetables in a time of polycrisis – even in small quantities; land regeneration and Zen Buddhism; Thich Nhat Hanh’s gardening metaphors; and more.Enjoy and thank you for listening! Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/   And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/  With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources  The Happy Harmhttps://thehappyfarm.org/  Interbeinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbeing‘The Five Earth Touchings’https://plumvillage.org/key-practice-texts/the-five-earth-touchingsHappy Farms: ‘Reverence for the Land’https://plumvillage.org/articles/reverence-for-the-land  ‘Happy Farm: Rewilding – Healing, Regeneration, and Transformation for the Land’https://www.parallax.org/mindfulnessbell/article/happy-farm-rewilding/  Sutras: ‘The Diamond That Cuts through Illusion’https://plumvillage.org/library/sutras/the-diamond-that-cuts-through-illusionDharma Talks: ‘Free from Notions: The Diamond Sutra’https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/free-from-notions-the-diamond-sutra  Deep ecologyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology  Vandana Shivahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandana_Shiva  Grow It Yourselfhttps://giy.ie/  Eating Meditationhttps://web.plumvillage.app/meditations/eating-meditationMary Oliverhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_OliverThe Bodhi Treehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi_Tree  Global North and Global Southhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_North_and_Global_South Braiding Sweetgrasshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braiding_Sweetgrass Quotes “I can pivot 360 degrees, and I can see countless examples of what Thich Nhat Hanh refers to as interbeing, this interconnectedness of all life.”  “Happy Farm literally grounds people in [mindfulness] practice.” “We are the Earth that carries us.” “Go home to nature and let nature heal you.” “Thay was a revolutionary to bring the community of humans, the community of practice, out into the forest to practice walking meditation every day. And that is so unique and healing in and of itself.” “We’re probably the first generation, at least in the Global North, that have been separated in our choices, and how our communities and cultures have evolved to be separate from the gifts and knowledge of how to grow some of our own food. And in rediscovering how to do that, we took a lot from and have a lot of reverence for the ancestors: our blood ancestors, our family, our spiritual ancestors, and our land ancestors, those who lived on these lands. And many people lived on these lands here, in Plum Village, going way back into historical times when people hunted in these valleys or farmed these lands. And all our neighbors around us still farm these lands, not just on the Happy Farm.”  “Vandana Shiva say

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0:00.0

Dear friends, welcome to this latest episode of the podcast series The Way Out is In. I am Joe Comfino working at the intersection of personal transformation and systems evolution.

0:27.0

And there's a pause now because Brother Fat Pooh is not here, he's traveling, but the show must go on.

0:35.0

So we have a special episode this week on land regeneration, on happy farming, on reconnecting deeply to nature.

0:47.0

The way out is in. our team. Hello everyone. I am Joe Confino and today we have two special guests. We have

1:08.8

Mick McAvoy and sister Lamhe and they are both deeply involved in both upper hamlet, which is where the

1:17.5

monks residence is and also lower hamlet which is one of the two nunneries in Plum Village.

1:24.4

And we are going to be talking with them today about the art of land regeneration, about

1:31.5

farming, and about how do we reconnect with the land.

1:35.0

And we know that this is a conversation that is very, very strong at the moment in society

1:40.0

about this idea that we've been disconnected from Mother Earth and that actually if we're going to

1:46.2

change the way we live and to avoid even greater climate disasters that actually we need to reconnect and with Mother Earth and treat her with the respect that she deserves.

2:00.0

So, Mick, let's start with you.

2:03.6

Can you just introduce us, tell us a bit about yourself,

2:07.2

and then we'll go to you, sister, and then we will dive into this whole topic.

2:11.8

Sure, thank you, Joe. So nice to be with you and

2:15.2

sister Lamhe, my bestie. My name is Mick McAvoy. I come from Ireland

2:20.9

originally and I live here in Plum Village in Upper Hamlet and sometimes I introduce

2:26.1

myself as half farmer, half monk and I have the good fortune to weave my livelihood into these themes that you just introduced

2:35.3

Joe the Happy Form project that's the both Sister Lam he and I have been involved in for many years now.

2:42.4

This is a project of agroecology, so food production, but also care for the earth.

2:48.0

And we have farms in Upper Hamlet and in Lower Hamlet.

2:53.6

And at the center of those projects

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