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In Our Time

Happiness

In Our Time

BBC

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4.69.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2002

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss whether 'happiness' means living a life of pleasure, or of virtue. It is an old question, and the Roman poet Horace attempted to answer it when he wrote; 'Not the owner of many possessions will you be right to call happy: he more rightly deserves the name of happy who knows how to use the gods's gifts wisely and to put up with rough poverty, and who fears dishonour more than death'. It seems a noble sentiment but for the Greek Sophist Thrasymachus this sort of attitude was the epitome of moral weakness: For him poverty was miserable, and happiness flowed from wealth and power over men, an idea so persuasive that Plato wrote The Republic in response to its challenge. What have our philosophers made of the compulsion to be happy? And how much does this ancient debate still define what it means to be happy today? Are we entitled to health, wealth and the pursuit of pleasure or is true contentment something else entirely? With Angie Hobbs, Lecturer in Philosophy at the University of Warwick; Simon Blackburn, Professor of Philosophy at Cambridge University; Anthony Grayling, Reader in Philosophy at Birkbeck College, University of London.

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0:11.4

Hello, does happiness mean living a life of pleasure or one of virtue?

0:15.3

It's an old question and the Roman poet Horace attempted to answer it when he wrote

0:19.7

Not the owner of many possessions. Will you be right to call happy?

0:23.6

He more rightly deserves the name of happy who knows how to use the God's gifts wisely and to put up with

0:30.0

The rough poverty and who fears dishonor more than death. It seems a noble sentiment in that rather antiquated

0:36.5

Translation but for the Greek's office for his mark us this sort of attitude is the epitome of moral weakness for him

0:43.0

Poverty was miserable and happiness flowed from wealth and power over men an idea so persuasive that Plato wrote the

0:49.6

Republic in response to its challenge

0:51.9

What have our philosophers made of the compulsion to be happy and how much does this ancient debate still define what it means to be happy today

0:59.5

Are we entitled to health wealth and the pursuit of pleasure or is true happiness something else entirely?

1:05.6

We're meant to discuss the philosophy of happiness is Angie Hobbes lecture in philosophy at the University of Warwick

1:11.0

An author of Plato and the hero

1:13.2

Simon Blackburn professor of philosophy at Cambridge University and author to take but one book again of being good

1:19.8

And Antony Grayling author of the meaning of things and read in philosophy at Birkbeck University of London

1:26.5

Angie Hobbes the Greek word for happiness is I believe I'm a near

1:30.6

I'd a man here. What did they mean by it in general terms? You've told me I'd have renounced it first. They'll explain what it means

1:36.6

Yes, the basic meaning of you diamond here is having a good guardian spirit and it comes to mean in practice something like flourishing or living an

1:46.0

Objectively desirable life in other words it describes an objective situation rather than a purely subjective psychological

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state

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There was even a debate about whether your you diamond here could be affected by what happens after your death

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