“happiness”

13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast

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4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of 13: A Taylor Swift Fan Podcast, Nick, Ana, Amy, and Lacey dive deep into track seven on Evermore: “Happiness.” From Taylor’s own reflections in the Willow live chat and her Apple Music interview with Zane Lowe, to parallels with The Great Gatsby and Easter eggs leading into Midnights and The Life of a Showgirl, we explore the hidden meanings, lyrics, and emotions behind this deceptively titled ballad. We also break down how “happiness” fits into Taylor’s larger storytelling—grief, reinvention, and moving forward after heartbreak—and debate fun Swiftie trivia like Taylor’s longest songs, the caterpillar-to-butterfly lyric connections, and listener voicemails that tie songs across albums. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY QUINCE Go to Quince.com/taylorswiftfan for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY RUFF GREENS Fetch a Free Jumpstart Trial Bag for your dog today (you just cover the shipping) Go to RuffGreens.com and use discount code: taylorswiftfan THIS EPISODE IS SPONSORED BY WAYFAIR “Cozify” your space with Wayfair’s curated collection of easy, affordable fall updates — from comfy recliners to cozy bedding and autumn decor. Find it all for way less at Wayfair.com. Join the conversation in our Swiftie community at station.page/13 and call in anytime at 689-214-1313. There are lots of ways to reach us! CONTACT THE PODCAST! Voicemail Number- (689) 214-1313 Email- ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ IG- ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/the13podcast⁠⁠ TikTok- ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@the13podcast⁠⁠ Twitter- ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/the13TSpodcast⁠⁠ YouTube- ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@13ATaylorSwiftFanPodcast⁠⁠ FOLLOW US! Ana - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/anaszabo13⁠⁠ Lacey – ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/laceygee13⁠⁠ Amy – ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/amysnichols⁠⁠ Nick – ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/nickadamsonair⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The weather. Tomorrow, expect a... Biting cold front.
0:04.7	Hmm, how naughty. I wonder what I'll be wearing or taking off.
0:09.2	The night will be wild and untamed. Expect heavy, lashing rain that'll soak you to the skin.
0:15.1	By Monday, temperatures will rise slowly but surely reaching their peak in the afternoon.
0:21.3	Not in the mood for miserable weather?
0:23.5	Fly cheaply to Turkey with Sun Express.
0:26.4	Sun Express, non-stop sunshine.
0:30.6	The weather. Tomorrow, expect a...
0:33.4	Biting cold front.
0:34.8	Mmm, how naughty. I wonder what I'll be wearing or taking off.
0:39.3	The night will be wild and untamed.
0:41.4	Expect heavy, lashing rain that'll soak you to the skin.
0:45.2	By Monday, temperatures will rise slowly but surely reaching their peak in the afternoon.
0:51.3	Not in the mood for miserable weather?
0:53.5	Fly cheaply to Turkey with Sun Express.
0:56.4	Sun Express.
0:57.6	Non-stop sunshine.
1:02.7	Yay, networks.
1:04.8	13 has been my lucky number for a while.
1:06.9	Like, it's always a sign of good things to come for me.
1:09.6	This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, breaking down every song, every Easter egg, every
1:17.6	era, and every theory, hosted by the biggest Swifties, Nick Adams, Anna Zabo, Amy Nichols,
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