This is exactly right.

The courtroom isn't just about justice. It's about power and money and some truly bizarre loopholes.

I'm Michael Foote. And I'm Melissa Malbranche, and we've got a brand new show called Brief Recess, Illegal Podcast.

Every week, we talk about wild tales from court, trials gone wrong, and cases and rulings that shape our world.

Today we're going to be talking about stolen antiquities, all the weird things Melissa found at in a state sale, the crazy conversations I had with the bouncer and J.K. Rowling. We make the complicated clear and the serious, surprisingly fun. From the exactly right network, new episodes of Brief Recess drop every Thursday. Watch Brief Recess on YouTube. Listen to Brief Recess on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello. Hello and welcome to my favorite murder.

That's Georgia Hartstar.

That's Karen Kilgariff.

And today we have some very special guests to show you.

They are luminaries in the true crime podcast space.

You probably know them from their work on the amazing podcast, The Opportunist.

And now they have a brilliant new podcast that's going to be living right here in our little universe of exactly right media.

It's called The Knife and it premieres on March 27th.

We're so excited to have Pesha Eaton and Hannah

Smith here with us from The Knife. Yay. Yay. Podcast. Yes. This has been so thrilling, so exciting.

We finally got to tell everyone and now you're here on the network. Welcome. It's the best feeling.

We're so excited. So excited. Yay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. When you guys came with this idea, we were, it was like a hard yes immediately. Of course.

What made you guys come up? Like what was your, because you came off the opportunist.

You still wanted to do true crime, but this is like kind of heavier, darker stuff.

Like what made you want to get into that world a little more?

Yeah. So, you know, we had a lot of time doing the opportunist to sort of think about what it is

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