I think that's sometimes how we experience how a lot of us on various spectrums experience the gospel,

right, where some people just see something that's an obvious fraud.

I mean, I've heard that from people.

It's an obvious fraud.

I mean, only an idiot would believe there's something in there, right?

And other people come out going, this is the greatest thing I've ever experienced my life.

You got to come in. You got to come in. And it, it, there's some, there's some back and forth there

that I find that I find pretty fascinating.

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