Hanif Abdurraqib is a 'genius.' His friends aren't impressed
Wild Card with Rachel Martin
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4.6 • 991 Ratings
🗓️ 12 September 2024
⏱️ 44 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Support for NPR and the following message come from the Walton Family Foundation, |
| 0:05.1 | working to create access to opportunity for people and communities by tackling tough social and environmental problems. |
| 0:11.9 | More information is at waltonfamilyfoundation.org. |
| 0:16.0 | What have you learned to appreciate about your hometown over time? |
| 0:20.6 | There's something about being unhoused in a place that you love where I remember just walking the streets at night and feeling like the city belonged to me and only me because you're at your most invisible then. |
| 0:34.6 | I'm Rachel Martin and this is Wildcard, the show where cards control the conversation. |
| 0:42.3 | Each week, my guest chooses questions at random from a deck of cards. |
| 0:46.6 | Pick a card one through three. |
| 0:48.3 | Questions about the memories, insights, and beliefs that have shaped them. |
| 0:51.8 | On the horizon, there is an excitement that I have not yet touched, and I just know that the fastest way to get there is to run to it. My guest this week is writer Hanif Abduroki. In the process of running to it, I will stumble over some excitements that I perhaps also did not know existed to me. I think a lot about appreciation. I teach my kids that treating gratefulness like a daily practice can help |
| 1:11.9 | them build meaningful lives. I've actually got sort of an evolution of appreciation in my mind. |
| 1:18.5 | The first step is observation, right? Pay attention to the thing. The next step, appreciate the |
| 1:24.3 | thing. Then find meaning in it. But the highest form of appreciation is reverence. |
| 1:30.9 | Reverence is bigger and deeper than appreciation. It's divine. Reverence reminds us of our small place |
| 1:37.7 | in the universe. Holding something or someone with reverence is an act of optimism, I think. It's a way |
| 1:44.1 | to acknowledge that there are |
| 1:45.3 | miracles in this world that make living not just tolerable, but beautiful. Writer Hanif Abdurakib |
| 1:51.6 | is really good at reverence. Maybe it's because he's written about some of the hardest parts of |
| 1:56.9 | living. He's been incarcerated. He's lived on the streets. He has lost people, including his mom when he was just 13 years old. |
| 2:04.2 | When I talked to him last year, he told me something I'll never forget that he tries to be a good steward to his grief. |
| 2:10.5 | Because it lives inside him and it's not going away. And maybe understanding grief helps him understand reverence. |
| 2:19.3 | And that's what differentiates him and his work, to me anyway, how we can write about an Aretha Franklin song and make it a prayer, |
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