Hang Up | Micah and Jerry’s Dallas Standoff

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🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Hosts Alex Kirshner, Ben Lindbergh, and Lindsay Gibbs are joined by Cowboys beat writer RJ Ochoa to dissect the messy public contract negotiations between Jerry Jones and superstar Micah Parsons. The panel also discusses the relocation dispute between the Connecticut Sun and the WNBA, plus Jen Pawol becoming the first female umpire in MLB. On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the panel talks about the Kansas City Chiefs not being favored to win the Super Bowl this season. Jerry Jones (4:29): The drama king digs in his heels. The Connecticut Sun (24:20): Will Boston finally have its WNBA team? Jen Pawol (43:25): Baseball’s umpire glass ceiling is finally broken. (Note: time codes are only accurate for Slate Plus members, who listen ad-free.) Get more Hang Up and Listen with Slate Plus! Join for weekly bonus episodes of Hang Up and Listen and ad-free listening on all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe from the Hang Up and Listen show page on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, or visit slate.com/hangupplus for access wherever you listen. You can email us at [email protected]. Podcast production and editing by Kevin Bendis, with production assistance from Patrick Fort. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	In late August 1992, Randy Weaver and his family were refusing to come down from the remote Idaho mountaintop where they lived.
0:09.0	Weaver, a fugitive on a federal firearms charge, has been hold up in a cabin near Naples for more than a year.
0:15.0	The government thought Randy Weaver was a dangerous, possibly violent extremist.
0:20.0	Randy and his wife Vicky thought the government
0:23.0	was an agent of Satan on earth. When it was all over, three people were dead, and the government
0:29.2	had spent millions of dollars to catch one man. We'll find out why the siege at Ruby Ridge
0:34.7	unfolded the way it did, and think about some of the questions it raises.
0:39.4	What should we do about white supremacists? Why has the story of Ruby Ridge become an enduring
0:45.3	myth for the far right? And whose fault was it anyway?
0:51.0	Subscribe to Standoff, what happened at Ruby Ridge, in Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.
0:55.7	It is Monday, August 11, 2025. Welcome back to Hang Up and Listen, the sports podcast here at Slate.
1:13.5	Back with you yet again, I'm Alex Kirsner. I'm a contributing writer here at Slate, and I co-host
1:18.6	Split Zone Duo, a college football podcast. Big show for you this week. We're going to start with a Dallas
1:23.6	Cowboys Beat Reporter, stopping by to explain how Jerry Jones has found himself on one side
1:28.7	of one of the most toxic public negotiations with a star player in recent NFL history.
1:34.3	No, not that one, or that one, or that one.
1:37.9	We'll talk about an unusual ownership and relocation dispute in the WNBA, which taps into
1:43.2	all kinds of modern sports business dynamics.
1:46.2	And we'll talk about the fall of the gender barrier in major league umpiring over the weekend.
1:52.0	Big news in a series in Atlanta.
1:54.9	As usual, joining me this week to talk about all of it is Lindsay Gibbs, the publisher of PowerPlays,
1:59.9	a newsletter that covers
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