Hang Up and Listen - The Jerry Jones Did What With Shoes? Edition
Hang Up and Listen
Joel Meyer
4.6 • 986 Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2018
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
Josh Levin and Stefan Fatsis are joined by Deadspin’s Laura Wagner to discuss Colin Kaepernick and Nike. Mark Leibovich also joins to talk about his new book on the NFL, Big Game. Finally, they interview the Washington Post’s Dave Sheinin about his piece on a baseball player who came agonizingly close to making the majors.
Kaepernick and Nike (1:21): How cynical should we about this alliance between athlete and corporation? And how surprising is it that Nike struck a deal with the leader of the NFL’s social justice protests?
Big Game (16:15): Mark Leibovich spent years chatting with NFL owners and chasing commissioner Roger Goodell and Patriots quarterback Tom Brady. Here’s what he learned.
Brian Mazone (38:14): What goes through a baseball player’s mind when he comes up just short of his lifelong dream?
Afterballs (51:46): Stefan on his baller mom and Josh on turnover props.
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains explicit language. |
| 0:13.0 | Hi, this is Josh Levine, and this is Slate's sports podcast tying up and listen for the week of September 4th, 2018. |
| 0:20.3 | On this week's show, Dad Spends Laura Wagner will join us, |
| 0:23.1 | to talk about what's behind Nike's move to make Colin Kaepernick the face of its |
| 0:27.7 | latest Just Do It campaign. |
| 0:30.4 | We'll also interview Mark Leibovic about his new book, Big Game, the NFL, in Dangerous |
| 0:36.2 | Times. |
| 0:37.2 | And Dave Shinen of the Washington Post will be here |
| 0:39.7 | to discuss his story about a baseball player who missed out on making it to the majors in the most |
| 0:45.1 | agonizing way possible. Joining me in Washington, D.C. is Stefan Fatsis, author of the book's |
| 0:51.0 | Word Freak in a few seconds of panic. Hello, Stefan. Hey, Josh. We're going to talk |
| 0:57.1 | about it in our bonus segment. We're both a little bit sleepy because we stayed up to watch |
| 1:00.6 | John Millman, both big Millman. Millman. Huge Milman found. Great moment in tennis for John Millman |
| 1:07.5 | on Monday night. Shall we move along to talking about Nike? I could talk about |
| 1:12.5 | John Millman all day, but sure, we should probably go. Let's do it. Forward. Let's do it. The famous |
| 1:16.8 | Nike slogan. Did you do that on purpose? That sounded accidental. Let's do it. On Monday, Colin |
| 1:22.2 | Kaepernick tweeted out a new Nike ad with an image of his face and the text, believe in something, even if it means |
| 1:29.5 | sacrificing everything. At the bottom, there's the Nike swoosh and the slogan, Just Do It, |
| 1:34.6 | of course. I found this surprising when I saw it for a bunch of reasons, one of which is that |
| 1:39.8 | Nike has paid an enormous sum, probably more than a billion dollars, to have the right to make the NFL's uniforms. |
| 1:46.7 | But also there's just the fact that Nike is an enormous corporation, and enormous corporations typically don't do things that are risky or that even seem risky. |
| 1:55.5 | And making Colin Kaepernick, your spokesperson, seems risky, given that he's the leader of a social protest movement, that a lot of people who I personally don't respect, but who do have credit cards think is disrespectful to America, the troops. |
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