The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hi, this is Josh Levine, and this is Slate's sports podcast Hang Up and Listen for the week of February 13th, 2017.

On this week's show, we'll talk about various New England patriots, declaring they won't make the trip to Donald Trump's White House. We'll also discuss a couple of bizarre scenes in NBA arenas.

The first in Oklahoma City, where Thunder fans greeted Kevin Durant with all manner of

cupcake imagery. And the second in New York, where former Nick Charles Oakley got kicked

out of Madison Square Garden after a

controuton with owner James Dolan. Finally, we'll chat with Kyle Allen, the basketball coach at

Pine City High School in Pine City, Minnesota, which is revolutionizing the way the game is played.

Stefan Fatsis, the author of No One Gassed Up the Truck, How Hope, Hype, and Poor Attention to

Detail Shaped the XFL, is out sick this week.

Feel Better, Stefan.

Joining me here in Washington, D.C., making his fourth all-time, Billan appearance,

is Washington Post columnist in Internet Sportsbogger Dan Steinberg.

Congratulations on joining the Four-timers club.

I was going to say, where do I rank on the outstanding?

Mina Kimes has four. I looked because I thought there might be a follow-up question. I think

maybe you're tied. For first? Maybe for first. Wow. And that and that official count does not

include all the times he started the show in character as Dan Snyder.

This is a reference to Alec Baldwin, who's hosted Saturday Night Live 17 times.

Thank you.

It was even better once the reference was explained.

With us from New York is Mike Pasca, the host of Slate's Daily podcast, The Gist,

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