Hang Up and Listen - Michigan is a Mess
Hang Up and Listen
Joel Meyer
4.6 • 986 Ratings
🗓️ 16 December 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh discuss the shocking circumstances around the firing and arrest of Michigan coach Sherrone Moore and how his misconduct speaks to a systemic issue within Michigan Athletics. Next, the team is joined by The Ringer’s David Shoemaker to pay tribute to the pro wrestling career of John Cena following his final match. And finally, Turkish sociologist and journalist Dağhan Irak helps us unpack the betting scandal rocking Turkish football.
On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the gang talks about The Kansas City Chiefs’ fall from grace.
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Episode Notes:
Read Alex’s piece on the Michigan situation.
Check out The Squared Circle by David Shoemaker
Read David Shoemaker’s piece on John Cena
Read more on the Turkish betting scandal
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| 0:00.0 | It is Monday, December 15th, 2025. Welcome back to Hang Up and Listen, the sports podcast here at Slate. Back with you |
| 0:22.0 | this week, I'm Alex Kersner. I'm a contributing writer for Slate, and I co-host the college football |
| 0:26.6 | podcast, Split Zone Duo. Got a big show for you this week. We're actually going to start with a college |
| 0:31.5 | football topic, that being the shock firing and subsequent arrest of Michigan head coach |
| 0:37.4 | Sharon Moore and the fallout that has |
| 0:39.5 | ensnared the University of Michigan. We're going to talk with David Shoemaker of the ringer |
| 0:44.1 | about John Sina's retirement, or so we think, from professional wrestling. And we're going to |
| 0:49.5 | talk about a Turkish betting scandal that is literally unbelievable. |
| 0:54.9 | When we've described it to people, they truly cannot believe it. |
| 0:58.0 | It's a treat. |
| 0:58.5 | We look forward to talking about it. |
| 0:59.7 | As usual, joining me this week is Lindsay Gibbs, the women's sports late at CBS Sports |
| 1:03.8 | and the publisher of Power Plays. |
| 1:05.8 | Lindsay, how are you? |
| 1:07.2 | I'm doing really good. |
| 1:08.4 | You know, I'm hanging in there. |
| 1:09.3 | It's like, what, 15 degrees here in |
| 1:11.9 | North Carolina. So bundled up, that's, that's cold for anywhere, right? That gets the count as |
| 1:17.1 | cold for anywhere. Fifteen is cold, yeah. Yeah. But, you know, Panthers loss aside, I'm hanging, |
| 1:24.5 | I'm hanging in there. It's been quite the week of sports news. Ben Lindberg, how are the |
| 1:29.1 | temps where you are at effectively wild and hang up and listen headquarters in New York City? |
| 1:34.6 | It is similarly frigid. It feels like 13 right now, but I am having warm, fuzzy feelings because |
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