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Hi, I'm Josh Levine, Slate's national editor and the host of Slow Burn Season 4.

This is Hang Up and Listen for the week of June 15th, 2020.

On this week's show, we're going to talk about the NBA players who, for social justice reasons and or pandemic reasons, are pushing back against the idea of restarting the pro

basketball season. We'll also discuss how football players at the University of Texas are

banding together to demand changes at their school and what that means for athlete empowerment

at the NCAA level. Finally, Clinton Yates of the undefeated will join us for a conversation

about the meaning and the impact of NASCAR banning the Confederate flag. Hello from Washington,

D.C. where I mirrored 20 minutes away from me by car, 90 minutes on foot, resides Stefan Fatsis, author of the book Word Freak and a few seconds of panic. If I started walking now, Stefan, I would certainly hope we were finished taping by the time that I got to your house. Then we could wave at each other. Does the 20 minutes include, like, parking? It doesn't take that long to get from me to you. I don't think. I don't trust

ways or whatever you're using. I can get there in 15. With us from Palo Alto, California,

a mere 43 hours by car and 923 hours by foot. Slate staff writer and the host of Slow Burn Season 3, Joel Anderson. How come you haven't made the 923 hours by foot. Slate Staff writer and the host of Slow Burn season three, Joel Anderson.

How come you haven't made the 923 hour track to come see us, Joel? I feel a little deprived.

Yeah, I mean, when I left D.C., this is where I came. I already did that drive once. I'm not doing it again.

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