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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Handle the Truth - with Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Society & Culture

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

As Israel mourns the return of four hostage bodies, pressure mounts ahead of negotiations for the next stage of the deal. Meanwhile, Donald Trump lays out his vision for Gaza in a bizarre, AI-generated video. At the same time, new IDF investigations into October 7th reveal years of misreading Hamas, leaving southern Israel dangerously exposed. Yonit and Jonathan speak with Ahmed Fouad Al-Khatib, an expert on Hamas, to understand what Gazans really want—and how perceptions on the ground differ vastly from those imagined in Tel Aviv or New York. Plus: a literary Chutzpah and a stardust Mensch. Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes (like Saturday Night Live), live zoom calls with Yonit and Jonathan, and more: https://www.patreon.com/unholypod Follow us on social media: https://linktr.ee/unholypod

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0:00.0

A young father who's been to hell has to bury his wife and small children and Israelis do everything in their power to show him he is not alone.

0:07.0

The military investigations into the failure of October 7th.

0:10.7

And we talk about the future of Gaza with someone who knows the enclave better than most.

0:15.2

It's unholy. I'm Unite Levy in Tel Aviv.

0:17.4

And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

0:30.6

Thank you. And I'm Jonathan Friedland in London. It's unholy, two Jews on the news with only half a voice between us.

0:34.6

You can hear how awful I sound.

0:36.5

I've picked up some kind of virus

0:38.2

that's going around, but I want to say that maybe it's unholy that's to blame because

0:43.1

we've recorded, not one, but two bonus episodes for our friends and our family listeners.

0:49.7

Maybe that has pushed my voice too far, Your Need.

0:53.8

Yeah, first of all, don't blame the Jews for everything, Jonathan.

0:57.4

It's the space laser that did it.

0:59.3

And second, we should say that one of our bonus episodes is about Saturday Night Live

1:05.1

celebrating its 50th anniversary, and it's the Jewish aspect of it.

1:10.6

Let's put it that way. Yeah, I am. The voice is ailing as you can

1:13.9

hear, but it was great fun talking about SNL at 50. There is so much Jewish about that show. I think we both

1:20.5

knew that we kind of had watched over the years. We knew there was a lot of Jewish stuff. But once you

1:24.4

take a deep dive into it, there is so much from the creator through to some

1:28.4

of the big moments. So we'll chart all of that in that bonus episode. And look, if I could

1:33.3

sacrifice my voice to record it, the least you can do is listen to it, Jewish guilt trip,

1:38.2

telling you to listen to the bonus episode. That was impressive work. Guilt comes to us

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