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The Director’s Cut - A DGA Podcast

Hamnet with Chloé Zhao and Barry Jenkins (Ep. 586)

The Director’s Cut - A DGA Podcast

Directors Guild of America

Tv & Film

4.6806 Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Director Chloé Zhao discusses her new film, Hamnet, with fellow Director Barry Jenkins in a Q&A at the DGA theater in Los Angeles. In the conversation, she discusses working with Writer Maggie O’Farrell and their different experiences with Shakespeare, collaborating with Cinematographer Lukasz Zal and how they captured images invoking the void, and her process of working with Actors to channel their unconscious selves in their performances. Based on the novel by Maggie O’Farrell, the film follows Agnes and William Shakespeare as they live a pastoral life with their family. When their young son Hamnet dies, they both deal with the loss in their own respective ways, sowing the seeds for the creation of the classic play Hamlet. See photos and a summary of this event below: https://www.dga.org/events/2026/january2026/hamnet_qna_1125

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0:00.0

I was so insecure about this at the beginning and Paul was really helpful and he said that

0:06.0

if Shakespeare is performed right, you don't have to understand the words. You feel the emotions.

0:14.4

And Shakespeare, he writes with this beat, you know, like there is a rhythm. Like his language is not just about meaning,

0:22.2

but it's about rhythm, it's about vibration. And when he said that, I go, oh, well, I can do

0:27.1

that. I know I'm very sensitive. I can feel things. Hello, and welcome back to the Director's Cut, brought to you by the Directors Guild of America.

0:53.6

In this episode, a powerful story of love

0:56.2

and loss inspires a great work of literature and director Chloe Zhao's period drama, Hamnet. Based on the

1:04.2

novel by Maggie O'Farrell, the film follows Agnes and William Shakespeare as they live a pastoral

1:09.5

life with their family in the countryside.

1:12.4

When their young son Hamnet dies, they both deal with the loss in their own respective ways,

1:17.4

sewing the seeds for the creation of the classic play, Hamlet.

1:23.4

In addition to Hamnet, Zhao's other directorial credits include the feature films, Eternals, The Rider, and Songs My Brothers Taught me.

1:33.2

She won the DGA Award for Outstanding Directorial Achievement and Feature Film for her 2020 feature, Nomadland.

1:42.6

Following a screening of the film at the DGA Theater in Los Angeles,

1:46.7

Zhao spoke with director Barry Jenkins about filming Hamnet.

1:51.2

Listen on for their spoiler-filled conversation.

1:58.2

I knew that was going to happen.

2:03.6

I'll tell a quick story.

2:06.6

We were just talking backstage that I maybe wasn't the right person to moderate this Q&A

2:11.6

because I have a four-month-old at home.

2:14.6

And are you guys all right? Are you guys good? I told them not to call Barry. I said you just

2:20.2

had a baby. But I felt like I had to. This is my compatriot. And when I made the show, the

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