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Jason Hammer from the number one rated Hammer and Nigel show joins us now.

And I know you like me are a massive Chicago Cubs fan and a rough day for Cubs fans everywhere.

I think you would say arguably the most beloved Cubs, certainly of the modern era.

The cable TV era.

Right.

Right.

When cable TV first really started becoming mainstream, you know, it was the super station,

WGN, those were the stations, right?

TBS, WGN.

All the Braves games were on TBS.

All the Cubs games were on WGN. So by default, if you were a sports fan at all, you started to identify with a lot of these people because they were on your TV all the time. And as a Cub fan, like Ryan Sandberg was part of the group that was like my babysitter growing up. Because I'd go to my grandparents' house. Both of my parents worked, so I'd go to my grandparents' house. And they

got this new thing called cable television. So they plot me right down in front of it. And

Harry Carey, Steve Stone, and Rino were basically my babysitters growing up. You know, it's weird,

like Casey and I were talking about earlier to start the show.

The Sandberg thing feels like a massive deal because you're right.

Millions of people saw this guy every day because there were so few options.

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