Hamm v. Smith
U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments
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🗓️ 10 December 2025
⏱️ 121 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | We will hear argument first this morning in case 24-872, Hamm v. Smith. |
| 0:06.4 | Mr. Roving. |
| 0:08.1 | Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, |
| 0:10.9 | nothing in the Eighth Amendment bars the sentence Joseph Smith received |
| 0:14.9 | for murdering Dirk Van Damneum nearly 30 years ago. |
| 0:19.0 | Atkins created an exception for offenders known to be intellectually disabled, but Smith is not. |
| 0:25.4 | He didn't come close to proving an IQ of 70 or below with scores of 75, 74, 74, 72, 78, and 74. |
| 0:35.0 | But the lower courts changed the rules. |
| 0:40.0 | First, Ms. Reading Hall, they took the lowest score to represent a possibility that Smith's IQ is 69. Then, to the extent they considered other |
| 0:46.1 | scores, they took each only in isolation and moved the line to 75. These maneuvers expanded Atkins, and this Court should reverse that expansion. |
| 0:57.7 | First, because it was not authorized by the Eighth Amendment. |
| 1:00.9 | Second, because it would eliminate state discretion. |
| 1:04.2 | And third, because it ignores that the combined effect of multiple IQ scores reduces error |
| 1:10.0 | and yields a more accurate estimate. |
| 1:12.5 | The answer to whether courts may consider the cumulative effect of multiple IQ scores is yes. |
| 1:18.4 | The answer to how they handle multiple scores is not found in the Eighth Amendment and thus left to state discretion. |
| 1:26.1 | Still, this Court can offer some meaningful ground rules for how to handle multiple scores. |
| 1:32.5 | First, states are allowed to make the first prong turn on the very best evidence of intellectual functioning, IQ. |
| 1:41.2 | Second, states are allowed to define the requisite intellectual functioning as an IQ of |
| 1:46.2 | 70 or below. Third, states are allowed to require the claimant to prove his IQ by a preponderance |
| 1:53.3 | of the evidence. The court can then supply a durable rule of decision by which a state can adopt a reasonably reliable method for |
| 2:03.5 | handling multiple IQ scores that when it suggests the offender's IQ is greater than 70, |
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