Today, Israel and Hamas launched indirect talks in Egypt for a potential ceasefire in Gaza.

The first phase of the U.S. Drafted Peace Plan calls for the release of the Israeli hostages

in exchange for the partial withdrawal of Israeli troops.

A second phase envisions the end of the war and a lasting governance plan for Gaza.

Nick Schiffran's following all this and joins us now.

So Nick, give us the latest.

Where do these talks stand right now? So, Omna, as you said, the U.S. and Israel see this happening in two phases. The first phase, Hamas would have to release all 50 Israeli hostages. About 20 or so are believed to still be alive. And then Israel would not really withdraw, but move back to what the yellow

line that you see in this map created by the Trump administration, which is still deep inside

of Gaza, some four miles inside of Gaza in the south. Israel would also release nearly 2,000

Palestinian detainees. The U.S. and Israel believe that they're having in Cairo right now,

or in Charmel Sheik, rather,

a technocratic conversation.

What's the sequencing of this movement?

Does Hamas know where all the hostages are, including the deceased?

But here's the thing. Hamas has not publicly agreed to the very concept of a phase one and a phase two that we've been talking about.

And before today,

mediators told me that Hamas was questioning key aspects of this deal, including not only

the sequencing, but the very active disarming that Israel said is required to actually seal

this deal. In the past, Hamas has not been willing to release hostages unless Israel ended

the war and agreed to a full withdrawal,

and that is not what phase one demands. So what we're watching to see, Amna, is whether

Hamas's thinking has changed, whether they're willing to release hostages before that step

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