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The Irish Passport

Halfpints: Why the poppy divides Ireland

The Irish Passport

The Irish Passport

Society & Culture

4.8673 Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

hundred years since the end of the First World War, the remembrance poppy remains a controversial symbol in Ireland. Why? Writer Kylie Noble explains what the poppy meant to her as a child growing up in Fermanagh in Northern Ireland, and how she reconciles it with her British and Irish identity today. Naomi traces the roots of Ireland's complex relationship with the poppy and how it intersects with her own family history, and interrogates what the fundraising appeal is for according to the accounts of the Royal British Legion. Should Taoiseach Leo Varadkar be wearing a shamrock poppy? You decide. Featuring Cello Duet No. 1 by Chief Boima

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0:00.0

Hi, you're listening to one of our Irish Passport half pints, extra content episodes that we make especially to say thank you to our Patreon supporters, and your own luck.

0:09.1

This one's a freebie. We're making the whole episode freely available to all of our listeners.

0:13.4

In this episode, for the 100th anniversary of the World War I Armistice, we're taking a look at the complicated and sometimes controversial relationship

0:21.2

Ireland has had with that ubiquitous little red poppy that has become so associated with

0:26.1

the war in the UK. If you want to access our whole library of half pint extra content episodes,

0:30.7

you can head on over right now to www. patreon.com slash the Irish passport and become a supporter of the podcast today.

0:39.4

Okay, I'll pass you over to Naomi. Enjoy the episode. I believe poppies are my first memory of the concept of charitable giving.

1:08.0

That's because until the age of six, I went to school in London,

1:12.6

where my parents, both from North Dublin, moved as emigrants in the 80s. I have a very

1:18.3

textile memory of poppies being sold from charity boxes at the school doors, chunky British

1:24.6

pounds in exchange for the chunky black centres and papery leaves.

1:28.8

I wore one on my school jumper, I'm sure.

1:31.6

Everyone did.

1:32.6

I don't remember understanding why except a vague belief that this was something for the greater good.

1:38.5

Then we moved home to Dublin and I didn't have to think about poppies.

1:41.9

Poppies were just a flower.

1:43.5

That was until I found myself

1:45.0

back in London as a grown-up working as a journalist. And that was when I became aware of the

1:50.7

poppy as the subject of a perennial culture war, an occasion for the rehearsal of irreconcilably

1:56.4

opposed positions. The same familiar arguments are aired ritualistically every year when the poppy season

2:03.0

hits in the build-up to Armistice Day, which commemorates the end of World War I on November 11th.

2:08.6

If you're someone in the public eye in Britain and you don't wear a poppy, you run the risk of becoming

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