I knew this is where comedy was.

Golly Carson changed my life twice.

It was just like a dream. It was just like everything I had worked for

and dreamed about has come to fruition.

They said Johnny fell overlapping.

It makes me so happy.

I made him laugh.

But with Johnny, you knew you had a kid audience that you could really go crazy.

My wife at the curtain, all hell broke loose backstage.

People were running up and he said, go back out, go back out, go back out.

Johnny, you want you back.

I walked back through the curtain very calm and Johnny and I took about and Johnny put that little circle up the finger and I I am Mark Malkoff. Thank you to Jim Blake and Joseph Planta for their recent support of the Carson

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Moving on, this week our guest is the legendary television director Hal Gurney. Not only did Hal Gurney direct Jack Parr and David Letterman, but he also directed the six months of guest hosts leading up to Johnny Carson's debut. Spending time with

Hal Gurney was an enormous thrill, we got together at his home in Sharon, Connecticut.

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