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This is a global player original podcast. Hello and welcome to full disclosure.

Well, my project designed exclusively to allow me to spend more time with interesting people than I'd ever get on the radio.

Hal Cruttenden, welcome.

Lovely to be here.

We'll see.

I love these. I've been listening to some of these podcasts. You really do get stuff out of people. And I was just thinking, I was arriving here going, don't cry. Just don't cry. Don't get too deep. Crying's good. Crying is good. Have people cried in these? I think that Chris Bryant cried. Some people have cried. but I don't, it's not, I mean, it's nothing to do with me. I just create a comfortable environment of which people, people can relax and let things go. Although, it did occur to me that as a middle class cliche myself, the fact that much of your comedy has historically addressed the concept of being a middle class cliche this could be sort of whatever the opposite of crossing the streams is yes um you are a very

very funny man one of one of my favorite comics um and on television we've been on a stage together

many many years ago and and yeah i didn't know much about you. I certainly, I didn't even know that your sister was in Patangyang, Kippabang. That was the first thing that, because I think, I've surely hundreds of men have told you over the years that they had a big crush on your sister when she started. It was the second night of Channel 4. I had a little black and white television in my bedroom that was normally only used for playing games on the ZX spectrum. Yeah. But for some reason,

I was excited by the launch of Channel 4. And I remember watching that film and both loving the

film and loving your sister. But it was a very theatrical upbringing, wasn't it, for all of you?

It was. I mean, we, my my parents our parents weren't professional actors but

well my dad became a professional actor at 49 and died suddenly at 50 so it's like the you know

absolutely brutal my mum had been they'd done a lot of stuff in um amateur theatre my mum was a

make-up artist at the bbc in the 60s and 70s and then she became a she started running her own stage TV and film makeup school so we did grow up with this sort of this thing of theatre and performance and and all that stuff and um your grandma had been yes a grand dam of training.

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