Returning to geopolitics and empire is Hakeem Anwar of Abovephone.com and take back our tech.com.

What's up, Hakeem?

Habori, it's good to be back, man. How are you?

I'm doing it. It's the best of times or the worst of times. Maybe I'll tell my story in a bit.

But let's look at what you got you. It hasn't been too long since you've been on the podcast.

I was just looking at your appearance on corporate report, which was great, which we'll be talking

about that.

And I think later today we have the Independent Media Alliance, but let me share my screen real

quick just to show people who are watching.

You just dropped this new report from take back our,

people can get on take back our tech or above phone regarding life under digital idea,

global analysis with solutions.

And it's the first of a kind that I've seen anything like this published.

I really enjoyed it.

So tell us about what's going on here.

Yeah, thanks, Foray.

Yeah, so I started seeing this topic come up more and more over the past few months,

like three or four months ago.

And it was very kind of like abstract. It's like,

yes, we know this is bad. We know that this is the control grid. And we know we should not do it.

But, you know, as a software engineer, I wanted to know specifically, like, what is, what is

the technology behind this thing? Where did it it just come from how come every country is doing

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