Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop, I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, playing the farm supply stage at the Iowa

State Fair or else a scrappy upstart, playing the Toyota tent at Lollapalooza, this is your show

because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

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