Hacking the hackers... with a credit card?
Smashing Security
Graham Cluley
4.7 • 579 Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
A cybersecurity firm is buying access to underground crime forums to gather intelligence. Does that seem daft to you?
And over in Nigeria, even if romance scammers would like to update their LinkedIn profiles, just how easy is it to turn a new leaf after a sweet-talking career in cybercrime?
All this and much much more is discussed in the latest edition of the "Smashing Security" podcast by cybersecurity veterans Graham Cluley and Carole Theriault.
Warning: This podcast may contain nuts, adult themes, and rude language.
Episode links:
- Sell your forum accounts - PRODAFT.
- International Scammers Steal Over $1 Trillion in 12 Months in Global State of Scams Report 2024 - Gasa.org.
- Why Nigeria's internet scammers are 'role models' - BBC News.
- 28-year-old fraudster surrenders to EFCC, confesses to romance scams - Punch Newspapers.
- Black Box - BBC iPlayer.
- Black Box trailer - YouTube.
- Katherine Ryan Battleaxe Tour - LW Theatres.
- Louis Theroux Interviews - Series 1: 5. Katherine Ryan - BBC iPlayer.
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| 0:00.0 | I want you to think of Nigeria. |
| 0:06.0 | Nigeria, the country. |
| 0:07.5 | I want you to think... |
| 0:08.0 | Well, as opposed to Nigeria the Flan. |
| 0:10.2 | What do you... |
| 0:10.8 | Take a deep breath. |
| 0:12.4 | Take a deep breath. |
| 0:13.2 | Sorry, I'm still recovering. |
| 0:32.7 | Smashing Security, Episode 413 Hacking the Hackers with a credit card, with Carol Terrio and Graham Cluley. |
| 0:54.9 | Hello, hello and welcome to Smashing Security episode 413. My name's Graham Clulelly. And I'm Carol Terrio. Grohl, what's coming up this week on the show? Well, first, before we kick off, let's thank this week's wonderful sponsors, Dashlane, Drata and Vanta. It's their support that help us give you this show for free. Now, coming up on today's show, Graham, what do you got? |
| 0:57.7 | I'm going to be looking into a side hustle for hackers. |
| 1:00.3 | A side hustle for hackers. |
| 1:05.2 | And I'm heading to Nigeria, the birthplace of the 419. |
| 1:09.2 | All this and much more coming up on this episode of Smashing Security. |
| 1:20.5 | Now, Chums Chums, a Swiss cybersecurity outfit with the rather amusing name of ProDraft. |
| 1:25.0 | I don't know. I think I would just, I like them already. |
| 1:30.3 | Okay. Anyway, ProDraft, they have launched something called the SIS initiative. |
| 1:33.8 | Now, that's SIS as in SYS, not CIS. |
| 1:34.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:38.1 | And I couldn't work out when I was reading about this. |
| 1:40.6 | What actually SYS stands for. |
| 1:46.7 | It could be surveillance, yes, sir, or shady yet sanctioned or sell your secrets, |
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