Hi, I said Honest, and I want to thank you very much for all your support of Storyworthy and your recommendations to your friends.

And maybe you don't even like Storyworthy.

Maybe you find us incredibly irritating.

Recommend it to your enemies.

We don't care where the numbers come from, people.

Cough right in your face.

Hi, this is Dean Hagelin from Chillpack Hollywood Hour.

And I don't mean to spread a conspiracy theory, but you're listening to Storyworthy.

Welcome to The Storyworthy Podcast. Here are your hosts, Christine Blackburn and Hannah Sfinney.

Welcome to Storyworthy. My name is Christine Blackburn, and I'm here with... It's Hannes Finney. And I'm coughing because we're in Russia right now. We're at Edward

Stone's apartment in Moscow. There's no heat at all.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. You know why we're at Edward Stone's Barn? Because he? Why? Because he's the most famous hacker in the world. Okay. He's the guy who released all the NSA documents. Okay. And now got asylum in Russia. All right. So, and our topic tonight is hackers. Hackers. And it's Bratforth from Dean Hagglin, the amazing actor and now a comedian as well. Comedian and podcast host. and you know, many of you super nerds out there know that he spent, I believe, nine years on the X-Files as one of the, the gunman. Lone gunman, I'm sorry, the lone gunman, I apologize. Yeah, he was one of the lone gunmen and then, of course, that show spun off into its own thing. Into its own show, I want to hear about that.

And I want to ask him about that. There's some fascinating stuff about that show that paralleled 9-11. I don't know if you realize that, Honest, but they had storylines on the lone gunman that, you know, eight months before those planes hit the World Trade Center. Oh, so you were involved. He was in, okay, so he's obviously behind the conspiracy and we'll, we'll blow it all up right now.

All right.

Tonight, folks, Dean Haggland is here, and he does bring forth the topic hackers.

And what I learned when I was thinking, you know, about hackers, I didn't know there were so many different.

All I can think about is my cough when I hear the word hackers.

There's so many different... All I can think about is my cough when I hear the word hackers. There's so many different color hackers. Did you know that on us?

Color hackers? I have no idea what that means.

Okay, so like a hacker, as we know, is someone who seeks and exploits weaknesses in a computer

system or in a network, right? Right. And they're motivated by many different reasons. It could be

profit or protest or challenge. But then within that, there are many different colors, like a white hat, a white hat hacker.

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