Hello, hi and welcome to another episode of the Emma Gunn Show, I am your host, Emma Gunn Awardner, and I thought in

this episode we would talk about phones, smartphones, phones. If you listen to the podcast with

Andy Puddacum, the co-founder and voice of Headspace,

you may have heard a mention the relationship with Harold phones.

It's easy to say phones are evil, phones are bad, etc.

But the point he made, which I found really interesting,

was that it's the relationship we have with them,

not the piece of hardware itself, that may be the issue.

And not to sound like carrier Bradshaw, but it got me to thinking.

She doesn't talk like that, but she does get thinking quite a bit. I'm very guilty of

mindlessly scrolling through my phone just watching TV but not

watching TV one eye on the phone one on the TV whatever you know listening to some

reality TV show whilst also engaged in Instagram.

And I can find myself being triggered by other people's perfect lives and inverted commas on the gram

and refreshing screens constantly for a hit of newness,

rather than picking up a book or focusing entirely on what I'm watching or otherwise doing.

So since then, since that conversation with Andy, I've been really trying to be more mindful, funny that,

about the relationship I have with my phone.

And that doesn't mean just trying to use it less,

but changing the way that I use it too.

And following on from emails and eams I've had from you, my most excellent

listeners, who have had similar thoughts and feelings

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