Gwyneth x Lupita Nyong’o: On Giving Yourself Permission to Learn

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Gwyneth Paltrow

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Education

4.3 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2019

⏱️ 50 minutes

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GP hung out at Universal Studios with Oscar-winning actor Lupita Nyong’o as she prepped for the release of her new film Us (written and directed by the talented Jordan Peele). They talked about Nyong’o’s path to the platform she has today: growing up in Mexico and Kenya, her politician-professor father who was in self-exile, Nyong’o’s education (and why getting an Ivy League degree was important to her), landing her role in 12 Years a Slave, the cultural significance of Black Panther. They talked about shame—in the context of women’s sexuality and also the shame of not understanding something. “Ignorance doesn't have to be permanent. It can be momentary,” says Nyong’o. “You have to allow yourself to learn. And it starts with admitting what you don’t know.” Other highlights: the pair’s perspective on how beauty is being redefined in the culture, Nyong’o’s description of the most “dangerous” (in a good way) actor she’s ever worked with, and some critical tips on getting through a scary movie. (For more, see The goop Podcast hub.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Goop Podcast made possible by our friends at Ketalon Botanical.
0:12.5	Welcome and thank you for tuning in today.
0:15.5	This podcast is a real passion project for us at Goop.
0:18.7	Twice a week, we sit down with a guest who has the potential to change the way we look
0:22.6	at the world.
0:23.6	You'll hear a lot from my chief content officer, Elise Loonon, who's incredibly curious
0:29.0	and brilliant.
0:30.0	And you'll hear from me, of course.
0:32.2	Today, I'm talking to Lupita Nyongo.
0:36.2	As an actor and a woman, I've long admired Lupita from afar.
0:40.4	Like everyone else, I thought she was brilliant in 12 years of slave and black Panther.
0:45.5	And I can tell you she's just as brilliant and stunning in person.
0:49.1	Lupita and I sat down at Universal Studios where she was getting ready for the release
0:53.4	of her new film, Us, which was written and directed by the very talent of Jordan Peel.
0:59.7	If you hear any background noise during our conversation, it's probably the tram at Universal
1:03.6	Studios or some Harry Potter fans or maybe possibly Jaws, please forgive us.
1:08.7	Lupita and I talked about her upbringing and family and the role she sees herself playing
1:13.2	in the wider culture today.
1:15.7	We talked about processing shame and how we relate to what's unknown, unfamiliar, or uncomfortable.
1:21.4	I'm excited for you to hear from this amazing woman.
1:28.1	It's interesting because I've been learning recently, shame that I didn't even know I
1:35.0	possessed and it's learned, it's learned, it's inherited, you know, and it's normalized.
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