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When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.

You do? Yeah, did you hear about that?

I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one.

In the sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.

Nothing itself is addictive on the one hand, and everything could be addictive,

if there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled.

I now know that nobody changes until they change their energy.

And when you change your energy, you change your life.

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is The Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders,

culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers, and seekers.

Here to start conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world.

Here we go.

My guest today is Thomas Curran.

Thomas is a social psychologist and a professor at the London School of Economics.

His new book is called The Perfection Trap, embracing the power of good enough.

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