This is the Gammers with Jobs conference call for Wednesday, December 1st, 2021. I'm your host, Amanda Nolton,

and today we've got a fascinating topic with a special guest joining me to discuss those things.

I've got my co-pilot, Rich the Joy Conjure, I love joy. Hello, welcome. Hi, how you doing?

Hi, doing good on my second coffee, so I'm rearing and ready to go.

Also joining us, I've got a returning guest host and a somebody who's super important to everybody

in this household. I've got Carla Andrich, welcome. Thank you for joining us.

Hey, excited to be back. Thanks for having me. Yay.

So last but not least, we've got a special guest.

I'm very happy and excited to introduce to you.

We've got Dr. Ben Chica, a lecture in philosophy and religious studies at Curry College, here

to talk about his book, Playing as Others, Theology and Ethical Responsibility in Video Games.

Welcome, and thank you so much for joining us.

Thank you for having me. It's a real thrill for me to be here.

So before we get into your book and the topic today, which is social ethics in video games,

let's go ahead and talk about some of the games that we've been playing.

So, Ben, is our guest. I would like to start off with you. What's been on your playlist lately?

Well, I will start with the bangers that I brought, I guess, which is the forgotten city, which

I, in our emails and Discord chat before this, I said, is probably my personal game of the year so far.

It's also one of those games that you can't say a whole lot about without spoiling, so I will do my best to remain spoiler-free and also actually say something about it.

It started as a Skyrim mod about five years ago, and it's come a real ways since then.

It doesn't look like Skyrim.

I think they really, once they flesh it out into its own game, it's not going to set

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