This is the Gamerces with Jobs Conference call for July 31st, 2013.

I'm your host Sean Andrich, and joining

me this week, nice tight crew this week, Sean Sands. Hi. And Julian Murdoch. Good evening.

Very nice to have you guys here. I'm in a hurry. Can we keep this going fast? I just want to get

through it. If you're keeping track, and I know you're not, I am still in renovation hell.

So this is my one-hour reprieve from grouting and replacing outlets and doing all sorts of things.

This week, we're going to be talking about, we're going to talk about AAA games and whether or not they need to meet a higher standard of gameplay and story than indies do.

And of course, we have your emails.

And after those emails, after the credits, finally, we will do a Last of Us spoiler section.

So you can look forward to that as well.

But first, let's go ahead and get into games.

And Julian, I feel like you're bringing in the heat this week.

You've got the most.

You've got the most. You've got the most.

What about him?

It's a relative term.

I've been playing more of The Last of Us, and we'll probably talk about this a little bit more on the topic side.

But I officially walked away about, as far as I can figure out from, spoilering and then trying to track where I was

I was about halfway through maybe slightly under

halfway through and I notice you've used the word

was there yeah I'm not going back done did you get to

I'll just ask this non-spoiler question more or less

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