Welcome to the podcast. It's Deconversion Therapy. The podcast, this is Bonnie, and over there in Tennessee is Karen with with normal hair and I just need to

quickly you know steal this from you. What a shock. Yeah. And say that when we got on Zoom and I saw

you and your Gwen Shamblin Laura hair she has it all teased up just like

Gwen Chamlin did and I laughed and laughed and laughed and unfortunately not only did we not

have record set but she didn't have her hookup to hear a genuine laugh out of my

mouth from now on it's just air like usual but it was a great laugh i did it all for you obviously um

and a little bit for me, because I will not lie.

If I could have my hair high like this, I might, if it were socially acceptable, I'd be excited.

Okay.

Because it adds volume to my round pie face.

See, and we're going to get into that, your round pie face, which you don't have.

But we're going to get into the hair maneuvers of Gwen, Lara, Shamblin.

Yeah, so that's the topic, just in case you're not reading what the topic is on your thing that catches podcasts.

We're going to give you more information about where to find us on social. on your thing that catches podcasts.

We're going to give you more information about where to find us on social media later,

but Karen has a couple announcements.

Yeah, please take your seats.

Before we get into Gwen Chamberlain.

No, all I was going to say is two things.

Look in the details of this episode, and you can see how to win a Celebrity Saints Candle.

And there aren't a lot of people entered right now, so your chances are good.

And then also, I hadn't told you this, but an organization that I really like is black non-believers.

...