welcome welcome folks we are live jack speaker co here today A special show with a co-host. I'm going to consider it instead of a guest, Guy Swan. If you're on Guy's channel, he's here, Samel casting with me. Guy, welcome to the survival podcast, man.

What's up, man? Good to be back. I'm glad we got to do do this i think the last time we got together was about

six months ago and it got cut short because of a vet thing or or whatever that was going on

yeah yeah we can just riff now got the man the legend himself got with me today this is going to be

cool so uh for maybe the people that are maybe new the i think if you're the bitcoin space for any time

you probably know who geiswan is but maybe for some folks that don't, because they're new, who is

Guy Swan and what's his deal?

Who is Guy Swan and what's his deal?

Oh, man.

Well, I have been in Bitcoin for, so I have a background in film and then went kind of the technical

route. I've always been like super, super nerdy, whether it was engineering or building stuff

or whatever as a while I was younger. And then like I just loved story and I loved ideas.

And so that took me down the film route.

And so I did that in school, and then film has no money in it.

It's just a passion project that makes you do bitch work if you live in LA.

And so I left there, I was like, this doesn't, this isn't fitting, went back into tech. And at some point in

that mix, as I was discovering libertarianism, as I was going down this fascinating rabbit hole on

internet history and discovering the cypherpunks and rediscovering BitTorrent as not this tool that I, I mean,

not this toy, basically, that I thought it was when I was

younger, just where I could get music and movies, you know, but like something that fundamentally

changed the market. Like, it broke the model, like a business model around the whole world. And that

was like, oh my God, this was was actually huge and I didn't see it

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