Hello and welcome to another episode of iWay with Jumeila Jamel. I hope that you're well.

I'm fine. I'm fucking exhausted. This job is exhausting but so much fun. I'm having a great time.

I'm not allowed to say anything else other than that. As a Zen, I'm having a lot of fun in the MCU

and the women I work with on this show are absolutely amazing and I'm madly and up with all of them

and I can't believe I've made such great friends at a job. And I feel so lucky to have found this work

in this time and found these people in a moment where sometimes the world has felt so divided

and divisive and I've just been surrounded by some really wonderful loving humans. So I'm in a good

place for a change and I thought I would just share that with you if that's okay. Okay, so today's

episode is with Guy Brannem. Guy Brannem is a comedian and an author and an actor, just a great veteran

entertainer. He was also the first person who ever allowed me to come onto his podcast long before

I had the good place or any other job. I don't think I even had a visa when he allowed me on his

podcast five or six years ago and and I have just remained since then. I even probably just a bit

before then just so star struck by him because he's so smart. He's so funny and and he really let

me into his whole heart, I feel like, on this episode, a trigger warning that we talk a lot about

diet culture and fat phobia and and so I just want to make sure that you are aware of what this

episode is about. But Guy Brannem as a larger man is someone who has had to reckon with fat phobic

culture, his entire life, basically. We also talk a lot about his sexuality here is someone who is

a gay man and we also talk about the complexities of also being a gay man who doesn't have the

society-acceptable body of a gay man because there's so much body image pressure in the gay community

especially for men. So we talk about the relationship between his coming out and his mental health

struggles with depression in this episode. We talk about how the biggest loser damaged people's

understanding of fatness. We talk about the problem with how queer people are represented in media

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