Gutowski Files Ep. 20: NRA Trial and Michigan Shooting Case

Active Self Protection Podcast

John Correia and Mike Willever

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🗓️ 5 February 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

On this installment of the Gutowski Files we sit down with investigative reporter Stephen Gutowski of thereload.com and discuss Wayne LaPierre's testimony in the NRA trial in New York State and the school shooting case in Michigan and what that might mean for parents of offenders.

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0:00.0	Well, already, and welcome back to the Gatowski files.
0:09.8	Yes, Stephen was missing in action.
0:11.4	We will talk about that here in a moment, but he is back.
0:14.1	Your favorite, second favorite person on this podcast, Stephen Gatowski is with us again.
0:19.0	Stephen.
0:19.4	How are you, sir?
0:21.3	I'm much worse now that I've been demoted to second, second of two. I mean, well, I, you know, what can I tell you? I'm just kidding. So, uh, Stephen is dressed up for those of you not watching on the app. He is all gussied up. We'll talk about that also here in a moment. He was sick. He is getting better.
0:38.8	Part of the reason we didn't get together last week was... app he is all gussied up. We'll talk about that also here in a moment. He was sick.
0:42.1	He is getting better. Part of the reason we didn't get together last week was a little sick.
0:48.2	Right. Um, was that Stephen was in New York, uh, covering the NRA trial. So tell us, uh,
0:53.2	how was that going and what did you observe while you were there? Yeah, I was, I was pretty sick for that. So I went to Shot Show, which you,
0:58.3	you missed because you were sick. So it's been a very rough couple weeks for this podcast here.
1:03.9	It has. But at Shot Show, shockingly, I got sick. At least that's my assumption because the symptoms came on right
1:14.2	about after I landed in New York to cover the NRA trial. So I was already there. And luckily,
1:21.9	one of the interesting things about the trial is the little attention that's being paid to it. So
1:27.4	there was a lot of social distancing opportunities in the courtroom because there
1:33.0	weren't a lot of people watching this trial.
1:35.4	There's one one takeaway from what I saw.
1:39.0	Just pretty empty courtroom.
1:41.0	There's a couple reporters, including myself, not, but maybe half a dozen.
1:45.9	And that was about it. Did you happen to see Mr. LaPierre? Did you wink at him?
1:49.9	Did you guys exchange a knowing glance or anything? Or was he on the stand?
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