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There's reloading and hunting and self-defense too.

All right, saddle up, lock and load.

We're going to talk about guns for a while.

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Tom at gun talk dot com a lot of things to talk about over the next three hours or so.

Good grief. We're getting statistics in statistics, that is,

and from Chicago on their murder rate.

And breaking down some of the details,

I'll have some more information about that

if we go along.

We have a governor,

that's one of the state's governors

has applied for a concealed carry permit. We have a police chief who says

that self-defense with a gun is a total myth. Doesn't exist. Now we have in one of the states

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