Welcome to the Gunplot podcast from RTE's Documentary on One. This is the fourth of our four

extra episodes. This recording is of Neil McCarthy. He was the Senior Council for former Minister

for Finance, Charles Hahi. The case for the defence was closed and Neil McCarthy was making his closing submission to the jury.

Historian Michael Heaney frames the recording for us.

This is a rare piece of tape really

because Neil McCarthy was the great star of the Law Library at the time. He went on to become a judge of the

Supreme Court and was probably the most brilliant judge on that Supreme Court until his

unfortunate early demise in a car accident with his wife several years later while he was on the

bench. And here we have his presentation at the end of Hawy's evidence, making the case for the

innocence of his client.

It's curiously understated.

McCarthy doesn't, there isn't a great flamboyance about the delivery here.

Everything is quite precise and polite.

There's no great exuberance or over-the-top presentation to the jury.

It's very calm, very, very deliberate and very comprehensive.

And, of course, ultimately, very successful.

Gentlemen, you will now be addressed by Mr. McCarthy on behalf of Mr. Hoy.

Mr. McCarthy.

Thank you, please.

And gentlemen, the fact that the evidence is over means, as far as far as it as concerned, the end of the beast in sight.

It's by no means going to conclude to Daryl indeed tomorrow.

But the end of this long, much publicized, at times dramatic and emotional, and at times

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