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Hello, I'm Ian Stone. This is Handbreak-off, the Arsenal podcast, brought to you by The Athletic.

We're talking to you the morning after. We suffered our second defeat this season.

3-1 in the Carabelle Cup away at West Ham at the London Stadium. I'm joined by Amy Lawrence and James McNicholas.

Morning. Not a good morning, but morning anyway.

Morning, it's a morning.

It is a morning.

Well, I think we can call this the contractual obligation podcast, really.

We have to do it, right?

And I don't mind doing it.

It's lovely to chat, and I hope you don't mind listening as well.

Before we talk about what we saw last night,

Rees Nelson for the celebration of Black History Month, Rees gave a really excellent interview

on Arsenal.com talking about his experiences growing up, the gunners championing of black players

and why representation is important. It's an excellent read and urge you to check

it out if you haven't already. One of the things he talks about, of course, was inspirations,

saying people like Rocky and Ian Wright, they were people that my granddad and brother would

pinpoint as the players to represent Arsenal and the players to aspire to be like. Growing up

then, who do you want to be like?

James, I've read your marvellous book about your granddad.

Yes.

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