get people to tell their real testimony.

It's a real testimony and there's a church testimony.

Church testimony is the edited version of the testimony

for all the religious people that you're afraid would judge you

if they knew what he really brought you out of.

And if you tell your real testimony before you knew so much,

before we learned everything we learned,

most of us got out of what we were in because of one word,

Jesus.

People say, well, grace got me out.

Listen, I couldn't define grace.

Grace for me was Jesus.

And when we get done learning everything we learn,

we'll come back to the idea that Jesus is still perfect theology.

That in him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

So everything you need to know about the Father you find in Jesus.

Be afraid of anything you think you know about God.

You cannot find in the man Jesus.

This is still a Jesus message.

We need Jesus songs.

We need Jesus sermons.

And God help us, we need Jesus churches.

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