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Today, Explained

Guilty. Guilty. Guilty?

Today, Explained

Vox

Politics, Daily News, News

4.310.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2018

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

In an unprecedented one-two punch Donald Trump’s personal lawyer pleaded guilty to and his campaign manager was found guilty of serious crimes yesterday evening. Vox’s Matthew Yglesias explores the implications. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.0

So you tell me you report on the courts for Buzzfeed news. The president had a very rough pair of minutes yesterday regarding two of his former associates Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen.

0:39.6

Let's start with Manafort guilty on eight counts mistrial on 10. What's he guilty of?

0:46.3

So he's guilty of all of the buckets of allegations that special counsel Robert Mueller's office charged him with failing to report foreign bank account, the tax and bank fraud charges.

0:59.3

He just wasn't guilty of all the counts within those buckets.

1:03.1

So what happens to all the charges that the jury was unable to reach decision on?

1:08.6

The government now has a week to decide if they want to come back and retry him. They certainly have that option. What complicates it for them is that in less than a month.

1:19.8

Mueller's office is going to trial against Manafort already again this time in Washington DC on a completely different indictment related to Manafort's work overseas, but different charges.

1:30.5

So same players, different venue, somewhat different allegations and charges.

1:36.9

How about sentencing? So we haven't been sentenced yet. That'll come in the Virginia case. At some point later the judge has sort of postponed that knowing that this other trial is coming up, but he does he does face jail time.

1:50.9

You know, the government has said at least a couple years. What that will look like though we don't know.

1:57.2

So it sounds like the sentencing is really up to the judge you were at the Manafort trial in Alexandria. What's the judge like?

2:05.2

The judge is a character.

2:10.0

This is Judge T. S. Ellis III. He's been on the bench in the Alexandria federal court since 1987.

2:18.2

Just that name makes him sound like a character.

2:21.2

He's an institution in court. He's he's known in the region. He is the word that comes up a lot is colorful.

2:29.0

In the first days of the Manafort trial, he told him to reign in facial expressions that he said communicate a message of quote, why do we have to put up with this idiot judge?

2:38.2

He will often digress on the bench to tell stories of his life as a lawyer, his time spent overseas.

2:45.6

You know, I think what's notable here is before the trial, there were a series of hearings on motions and arguments leading up to trial.

2:52.8

And the judge made clear in one of his opinions that it's not a fan of independent councils.

2:57.8

You know, he has been on the bench for quite a while. He was there for the independent council battles of the 1990s.

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