Guilty! Guilty! Guilty! Inside the Verdict with Jonathan Alter.
The Bill Press Pod
BP Pods
4.7 • 601 Ratings
🗓️ 4 June 2024
⏱️ 33 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Jonathan Alter, former columnist for Newsweek and publisher of the Old Goats newsletter, joins Bill to discuss the dramatic ending of Donald Trump's trial and its potential impact on the 2024 election. Alter, who spent every single day inside the courtroom, describes the moment when the foreperson of the jury announced the guilty verdict on all 34 counts, calling it a "nice moment of small D democratic accountability." He also discusses Trump's reaction in the courtroom and speculates on what may happen next, including the possibility of Trump being sentenced to jail. Alter emphasizes the importance of the trial and its implications for the rule of law in the United States. He also discusses the potential impact of the conviction on the 2024 election, noting that while some voters may overlook Trump's felon status, others may see it as a "final gut check" and choose not to vote for him. Alter expresses concern about the Republican Party's embrace of Trump despite his criminal conviction, calling it a "sad and scary moment in American history" and emphasizing the importance of upholding the rule of law.
Today’s Bill Press Pod is supported by The United Food and Commercial Workers Union. More information at UFCW.org.
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | Good day, good friends, and welcome back. Welcome back to the Bill Press Pod. |
| 0:12.0 | Well, while we're still dealing with the shock of Donald Trump's all guilty verdict last week on 34 counts |
| 0:18.5 | and trying to assess his impact on the 2024 election, it's good to have Jonathan |
| 0:24.5 | author back on today's podcast. Former columnist for Newsweek, now publisher of the Old Goats |
| 0:30.8 | newsletter, Jonathan was in the courtroom every day of the Trump trial. You remember he |
| 0:37.1 | joined us a couple of weeks ago as the trial was just wrapping up. |
| 0:41.3 | And he's back today to tell us about its dramatic ending and what happens next. |
| 0:47.3 | Donald Trump actually told Fox News that he'd be okay with going to jail. Is that where he's heading? |
| 0:56.1 | Jonathan Autor, welcome back to the Bill Press Pod. |
| 0:59.5 | Thanks, Bill. |
| 1:00.9 | So, John, you've had a good six-week run. I'm sure it's been very tiring. |
| 1:06.6 | I read your last post on the Old Goat's newsletter, and you talked about, quote, the most |
| 1:14.4 | dramatic public moment I have ever witnessed. |
| 1:19.3 | What was it? |
| 1:20.4 | Tell us about it. |
| 1:21.5 | Yeah, I mean, I've witnessed some good things. |
| 1:25.0 | I mean, sometimes I miss the story. |
| 1:26.7 | You know, it happens a lot when you're a journalist. |
| 1:28.4 | You get there. You're a day late and a dollar short, you know, and everything's already happened by the |
| 1:33.7 | time you get there. And that's happened to me plenty of times. But I've also been in some really |
| 1:38.3 | dramatic situations. Like I was in the magic theater and frog when the end of communism was announced in the chuck in chucklelovakia I was with borsh at ground zero when he had the megaphone I was like five feet away from him and that was very dramatic although people didn't realize at the time how dramatic it was. |
| 2:04.2 | Like I remember I told his press secretary a guy named Ari Fleischer. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from BP Pods, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of BP Pods and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.