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Greetings here listeners. This is Jonah Goldberg, host of the Remnant podcast, brought to you by the dispatch and dispatch media. Very excited. And I know I say that often,

but I live in a state of perpetual excitement. But unusually excited by today's guest, it is to my eternal

discredit and shame that this is his first time on here. I've known this guy for a long time.

Mike Moynihan, who's here, he's the co-host of the fifth column podcast, and you may have

seen him doing some various other work over the free press. He was actually the moderator for my

Ted-a-Tete with Neil Ferguson about where he was in a very rare moment, just exceedingly wrong

about something. Anyway, I was saying to Adam before Mike got here that my parents loved Mike

Moynihan. I don't know if I've ever told him this.

And the reason why, particularly for my, both of them really, he was my parents' idea

of what a young man should be like in this insofar, it's not how they put it, but insofar as

you're like, I don't know, a decade or so younger than me, maybe a little more, give or take, I don't know.

You have a 13 year old daughter,

I have a 21 year old daughter,

so somewhere in that range, right?

But you were one of the only people

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