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The Treatment

Guillermo del Toro, Janelle Monae, and Jeremy Dauber on The Treat

The Treatment

KCRW

Arts

4.6639 Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

This week on The Treatment, Elvis sits down with Academy Award winning director Guillermo del Toro, whose latest project is a new adaptation of “Pinocchio.” Next, actor, musician and self-described android Janelle Monae joins to talk about her unusual role in “Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery.” And for The Treat, writer Jeremy Dauber tells us about the Stephen King stories he read as a young child that still show up in his dreams.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

0:13.0

It's The Treatment.

0:17.0

Well, when you think about family movies, you probably think about,

0:19.8

oh, I don't know, a scene that features a character.

0:21.7

It looks like Hawkman from Alex Raymond's Flash Gordon, firing a shotgun, then passing a shotgun and somebody smoking a cigarette,

0:29.0

or perhaps a little boy figure standing in front of a man building a statue of Christ of the Crucifixion,

0:34.8

or perhaps an ending scene where characters watch up onto the

0:38.6

shore what looks like the end of saving Private Ryan with submarine minds. Those are all in the family

0:43.1

version of Guillermo del Toro's Pinocchio, where else they come from, but the mind of Guillermo

0:48.8

del Toro, Guillory, thanks for being here. My pleasure, my friend, yes.

0:59.0

Given this is the 30th anniversary of Kronos this year, God, that just occurred to me as we started to talk.

1:04.7

I'm trying to think of a film of yours that doesn't start off with the morning of a death of a character and the rest of the movie looking towards the resurrection of that character.

1:09.1

You know, Alfonso Guaron makes that same point over and over.

1:13.7

But the funny thing, if you want to think about it and make a complete circle, the main character

1:19.3

in Kronos is a Geppetto-like figure that rejects immortality.

1:26.8

And the final scene is him dying in bed with his child by the side,

1:33.9

as Don slowly rises on the window.

1:37.9

Exactly the same ending as Pinocchio.

1:40.3

Spoilers ahead.

1:41.9

But it was quite remarkable to look at how it deals with death, immortality, life, family law.

1:51.9

When I interviewed the coins about their first movie and Louis Davis, they said, do you mean we repeat ourselves all the time?

2:03.7

Well, I was just trying to think, because I would re-watch Chronos

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